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	<title>Comments on: How To Legally Serve A 5-Day Notice To Pay Rent or Vacate</title>
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		<title>By: Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy -- 

I&#039;m sorry to hear about the foreclosure -- you are not alone.  I have heard of landlords in foreclosure who stop paying their mortgage but continue to get rent from tenant - which they are legally entitled to do since they still own the property.  But I have to admit that I have never heard of a landlord who just let the tenant live rent free once the foreclosure started.  That is money that you are leaving on the table.

No there is no time limit.  Even if there was you would then just serve a 5 day notice based on the last month rent or two only.  But that is not necessary as you can (and should) list all past due rent.  The only problem you could have would be if you told the tenant they were no longer responsible for rent.

Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy &#8212; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about the foreclosure &#8212; you are not alone.  I have heard of landlords in foreclosure who stop paying their mortgage but continue to get rent from tenant &#8211; which they are legally entitled to do since they still own the property.  But I have to admit that I have never heard of a landlord who just let the tenant live rent free once the foreclosure started.  That is money that you are leaving on the table.</p>
<p>No there is no time limit.  Even if there was you would then just serve a 5 day notice based on the last month rent or two only.  But that is not necessary as you can (and should) list all past due rent.  The only problem you could have would be if you told the tenant they were no longer responsible for rent.</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will try to make this as simple as possible - my rental property is in foreclosure.  I have a tenant who has stopped paying rent however I have not evicted them, thinking I was helping someone out. However, now they have stopped paying their water bill - which the owner (me) is responsible for. I have tried several times to at least get the money for the utility bill but have received nothing. Can I pursue an eviction for a year of back-rent that they owe? Is there a time limit on how many months of rent you can sue for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try to make this as simple as possible &#8211; my rental property is in foreclosure.  I have a tenant who has stopped paying rent however I have not evicted them, thinking I was helping someone out. However, now they have stopped paying their water bill &#8211; which the owner (me) is responsible for. I have tried several times to at least get the money for the utility bill but have received nothing. Can I pursue an eviction for a year of back-rent that they owe? Is there a time limit on how many months of rent you can sue for?</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://petriestocking.com/blog/2009/08/25/how-to-legally-serve-a-5-day-notice-to-pay-rent-or-vacate/comment-page-1/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 20:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott -- Thanks for your kind words.  I am glad the blog is helpful.

When serving a Notice via certified mail it is deemed served once it is in the mail.  It does not matter whether the tenant accepts the cert. mail or not.  

I advise most of my clients to serve notices via certified mail (and all of the notices that I serve for my clients I send via certified mail) and in almost 70% of the cases the tenant says that they never received the notice --- too bad.  I have not had any problems with service via certified mail -- the court commissioners and judges are aware that the tenant need not &quot;pick up&quot; the cert. mail in order for it to be a valid service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott &#8212; Thanks for your kind words.  I am glad the blog is helpful.</p>
<p>When serving a Notice via certified mail it is deemed served once it is in the mail.  It does not matter whether the tenant accepts the cert. mail or not.  </p>
<p>I advise most of my clients to serve notices via certified mail (and all of the notices that I serve for my clients I send via certified mail) and in almost 70% of the cases the tenant says that they never received the notice &#8212; too bad.  I have not had any problems with service via certified mail &#8212; the court commissioners and judges are aware that the tenant need not &#8220;pick up&#8221; the cert. mail in order for it to be a valid service.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 15:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an absolutely fantastic amount of information on this blog -- thank you so much for providing it to us landlords that are always trying to learn from past experiences!

Regarding this topic, I was wondering what happens in a situation where a tenant is late with rent, a 5-day notice is mailed via certified mail, but the tenant simply refuses to accept/sign for the letter? Where can a landlord turn to at that point? Thank you again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an absolutely fantastic amount of information on this blog &#8212; thank you so much for providing it to us landlords that are always trying to learn from past experiences!</p>
<p>Regarding this topic, I was wondering what happens in a situation where a tenant is late with rent, a 5-day notice is mailed via certified mail, but the tenant simply refuses to accept/sign for the letter? Where can a landlord turn to at that point? Thank you again!</p>
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		<title>By: Is It Time To Hire A Property Management Company? &#124; Tristan&#39;s Landlord - Tenant Law Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is It Time To Hire A Property Management Company? &#124; Tristan&#39;s Landlord - Tenant Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Third, a landlord gets &#8220;dinged&#8221; by a tenant.  This could run the gamut from having an eviction action dismissed because of improper service of a 5 Day Notice, or getting sued by a tenant for making an improper deduction from their security deposit, or any [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Third, a landlord gets &#8220;dinged&#8221; by a tenant.  This could run the gamut from having an eviction action dismissed because of improper service of a 5 Day Notice, or getting sued by a tenant for making an improper deduction from their security deposit, or any [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://petriestocking.com/blog/2009/08/25/how-to-legally-serve-a-5-day-notice-to-pay-rent-or-vacate/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan R. Pettit, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris - Thanks for your kind words and great question.  

Under Wisconsin law you can legally choose not to renew a tenant&#039;s lease for any reason -- or even for no reason -- as long as your decision is not retaliatory or discriminatory.  In other words, if you have decided not to renew a tenant&#039;s lease solely becasue they are a member of a protected class or because they asserted a legal right (i.e. formed a tenant&#039;s union, called the building inspector) then you are in violation of Wisconsin law and could be in big trouble.  As long as your decision to not renew is not retaliatory or discriminatory then you are legally protected.

Having said that, please realize that allegations of retaliation and/or discrimination are commonplace in the L-T context.  So if you have documentation in your file showing ongoing difficulties with a tenant, to support why you have decided not to renew their lease, you will be better prepared to refute any discrimination or a retaliation claims should they be raised.

It should be noted that the above information applies to &quot;market rate&quot; leases and rentals only.  If you are operating Sec. 8 housing you must have a valid reason (i.e. tenant&#039;s breach) in order to not renew a subsidized lease.  The same is true inthe mobile home context.


 to do so is not made in retaliation for a tenant asserting his/her rights and/oas long as the decision to not renew is not discriminatory (i.e. - You can&#039;t be decisding to not renew their lease becasue of their inclusion in a protected class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris &#8211; Thanks for your kind words and great question.  </p>
<p>Under Wisconsin law you can legally choose not to renew a tenant&#8217;s lease for any reason &#8212; or even for no reason &#8212; as long as your decision is not retaliatory or discriminatory.  In other words, if you have decided not to renew a tenant&#8217;s lease solely becasue they are a member of a protected class or because they asserted a legal right (i.e. formed a tenant&#8217;s union, called the building inspector) then you are in violation of Wisconsin law and could be in big trouble.  As long as your decision to not renew is not retaliatory or discriminatory then you are legally protected.</p>
<p>Having said that, please realize that allegations of retaliation and/or discrimination are commonplace in the L-T context.  So if you have documentation in your file showing ongoing difficulties with a tenant, to support why you have decided not to renew their lease, you will be better prepared to refute any discrimination or a retaliation claims should they be raised.</p>
<p>It should be noted that the above information applies to &#8220;market rate&#8221; leases and rentals only.  If you are operating Sec. 8 housing you must have a valid reason (i.e. tenant&#8217;s breach) in order to not renew a subsidized lease.  The same is true inthe mobile home context.</p>
<p> to do so is not made in retaliation for a tenant asserting his/her rights and/oas long as the decision to not renew is not discriminatory (i.e. &#8211; You can&#8217;t be decisding to not renew their lease becasue of their inclusion in a protected class.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the helpful information on your blog!  The 5-day notice forms are also fantastic!  Unfortunately I have tenants who started out fantastic, but have gotten to be a real problem when it comes to paying their bills on time. Are there any laws in Wisconsin that relate to not renewing a tenants lease when it is up?  I know there are non-discrimination laws that relate to tenant screening.  Do any of these or other laws apply? Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the helpful information on your blog!  The 5-day notice forms are also fantastic!  Unfortunately I have tenants who started out fantastic, but have gotten to be a real problem when it comes to paying their bills on time. Are there any laws in Wisconsin that relate to not renewing a tenants lease when it is up?  I know there are non-discrimination laws that relate to tenant screening.  Do any of these or other laws apply? Thanks again!</p>
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